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Nomination Clarification

  • Feb. 13th, 2016 at 7:59 PM
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Do these fandoms contain space? Wikipedia etc have not been clear, and I would like for the nominators to clarify:
Only a few left! There'll be a franchise wrangling post up later today.
  • Earthian approved
  • Legend of the Blue Wolves approved
  • World of Warcraft approved
  • Final Fantasy XIII Series approved!
  • Gundam 00F approved!
  • Lunar Chronicles - Marissa Meyer approved!
  • Predators (2010) approved!
  • Robotech Masters approved!
  • Robotech: The Macross Saga approved!
  • Transformers: Beast Wars approved!
  • Young Wizards - Diane Duane approved!
  • Games of Command - Linnea Sinclair approved!
  • Predator (1987) approved!
  • Cyborg 009 approved!
  • DC Animated Universe approved!
  • DCU (comics) approved!
  • Ame-Comi Girls – is this separate from DCU (comics)? separate
Nominations are still open!

Characters:
For Gundam Wing, you have nominated Scheherazade, Snow White, Tallgeese, and Tallgeese Heaven. Are Scheherazade and Snow White characters in Gundam Wing, and are Tallgeese and Tallgeese Heaven different people? Is Scheherazade the mythic Scheherazade? Characters are Scheherazade (Gundam), Snow White (Gundam), Tallgeese and Tallgeese Heaven.
For Battlestar Galactica, you've nominated Gaius Baltar and Head Baltar. Are these different characters? Two different characters.
For Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, one of the nominated characters is Mirror Tuvok. Does he belong here, or should he be in Star Trek: Voyager instead? In DS9.
For Ame-Comi Girls, is Kara Jor-El a character, or is it simply a misspelled version of Kara Zor-El? A separate character.


We'll go through the Gundam series and attempt to split it up into the subseries correctly, but we're working against AO3, it seems, so if you spot a flaw in it, do notify us.

Comments

samuraiter: (Default)
[personal profile] samuraiter wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2016 06:13 pm (UTC)
Did not nominate, but can verify that the following are very space-y indeed:

Gundam 00F
Robotech Masters
Robotech: The Macross Saga
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2016 06:25 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I have approved those fandoms and all nominated characters.
lynndyre: Fennec fox smile (Default)
[personal profile] lynndyre wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2016 06:39 pm (UTC)
Why were some of the TOS characters rejected?
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2016 06:44 pm (UTC)
If someone was nominated twice under different names, I'd only approve one. Eg. with "James T. Kirk (TOS)" and "James T. Kirk (TO)S" I approved the former but not the latter.
(no subject) - [personal profile] lynndyre - Feb. 13th, 2016 06:45 pm (UTC)
batman: Jaime Reyes and Batman from Blue Beetle (you'll never know that you're my heeeero)
[personal profile] batman wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2016 07:00 pm (UTC)
Hi, I'm the nominator for Final Fantasy XIII and Young Wizards, and I can confirm space is an integral part of both settings!

The setting for FFXIII (that is, the first game) for the most part, is an artificial satellite set orbiting around a planet, much like a moon. The characters are aware that they live in an artificial satellite, and the ultimate plan of the bad guys is to drop that satellite onto the planet surface below, killing everyone in it. While the satellite's descent is stopped, it is only a temporary fix, and the ultimate goal in FFXIII-2 (the second game) is to stop that artificial satellite from completing its fall. The third game, LR: FFXIII, has another satellite as a major location: one major character lives in it and has done for about 250 years, and another visits it on a daily basis by ~magic~. Wikipedia doesn't really make it clear that Cocoon is not so much another planet as it is essentially a colony suspended above another planet. If you need more info, let me know, but in short, Final Fantasy XIII does have a lot of fantasy elements, but the setting is more space-y than the wiki page suggests.

As for Young Wizards, it is very space-y. The characters go to the Moon on a regular basis, visit other planets on a regular basis, aliens visit Earth on a regular basis, and three books are explicitly set off world. (Wizard's Holiday, Wizards at War, A Wizard of Mars). Minor characters also include Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto, and the Sun (as in, the planets, dwarf planet, and the star itself), which makes sense in the setting.
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2016 10:14 pm (UTC)
Approved! Oh, Wikipedia, why must you be so uninformative?
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[personal profile] senmut wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2016 07:47 pm (UTC)
Not the nominator, but Predators (2010) involves humans having been abducted to another planet and needing to steal a ship to get free, with aliens hunting them. So everything takes place on a planet, with space travel a definite moving cause.
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2016 10:14 pm (UTC)
Thank you. Approved!
crantz: Ozma of Oz with big red poppies in her hair. (ozma)
[personal profile] crantz wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 01:58 am (UTC)
Transformers: Beast Wars involves starship chases! And they live in a spaceship. And they're alien robots.
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 11:06 am (UTC)
Thank you! Approved.
taichara: (Duo and Naina)
[personal profile] taichara wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 02:09 am (UTC)
That's not Gundam Wing, that's Gundam Wing Frozen Teardrop which AO3 (in it infinite stupidity) insists on lumping with Gundam Wing.

Scheherazade, Tallgeese Heaven, Snow White, Prometheus, Warlock, Epyon Bai, Epyon Ares, and Proto-zero all belong to Frozen Teardrop, not Gundam Wing. If you can separate those two fandoms, it would be appreciated.

No, Tallgeese and Tallgeese Heaven are not the same, and Scheherazade is not the Scheherazade from Middle Eastern legendry.


While I'm on the subject, since AO3 likes to repeat its mistakes, the following belong in Gundam 00P -- which, like Gundam 00F, and Gundam Wing Frozen Teardrop, is a separate series and should not be lumped with Gundam 00:

GNY-001 Gundam Astraea
GNY-002 Gundam Sadalsuud
GNY-003 Gundam Abulhool
GNY-004 Gundam Plutone
GNY-0042-874 Gundam Artemie
GN-XXX Gundam Rasiel
GN-005/PH Gundam Virtue Physical
GNY-001F/hs-A01D Gundam Avalanche Astraea Type F'
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 11:27 am (UTC)
I have added Gundam Wing Frozen Teardrop and Gundam 00P to the tagset, and moved the characters in question to the correct fandom. Thank you, and do tell us if you spot anything else misplaced!
(no subject) - [personal profile] taichara - Feb. 14th, 2016 12:38 pm (UTC) Expand
(no subject) - [personal profile] extrapenguin - Feb. 14th, 2016 02:21 pm (UTC)
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[personal profile] aoifes_isle wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 02:48 pm (UTC)
It's worth sending something into AO3 Support about this; either you'll get an explanation as to why they've been merged together *or* they'll be put on the list to be split apart.
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[personal profile] aoifes_isle wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 02:46 pm (UTC)
Games of Command is set onboard a spaceship :D
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 03:34 pm (UTC)
Thank you, I've approved it now!
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[personal profile] saturnofthemoon wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 04:51 pm (UTC)
I didn't nominate him, but Mirror Tuvok is in an episode of DS9.
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2016 05:40 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I'll approve him as Mirror Tuvok (DS9) for AO3 reasons.
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sirvalkyrie: (Default)
[personal profile] sirvalkyrie wrote:
Feb. 15th, 2016 05:48 pm (UTC)
Ame-Comi Girls
Technically, Ame-Comi Girls is DCU (Comics) but usually when people say DCU (Comics) they mean the main universe. Ame-Comi Girls is an alternate universe that doesn't cross over with the main one at all. If someone were to offer/request one they would not expect to get the other. All the characters in Ame-Comi are different versions.
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 15th, 2016 06:32 pm (UTC)
Re: Ame-Comi Girls
Thanks! I'll keep them separate. I have approved all characters except Kara Jor-El. Is she a different character to Kara Zor-El?
Re: Ame-Comi Girls - [personal profile] sirvalkyrie - Feb. 15th, 2016 06:37 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Ame-Comi Girls - [personal profile] extrapenguin - Feb. 15th, 2016 06:51 pm (UTC)
sirvalkyrie: (Default)
[personal profile] sirvalkyrie wrote:
Feb. 17th, 2016 08:38 am (UTC)
You are having a crisis of infinite Clarks going on in DCU (Comics). Clark Kent (DCAU) and Clark Kent (Smallville) are showing up under it.
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 17th, 2016 12:48 pm (UTC)
I have tried to fix it, but it's not working! All the Clarks do appear under their correct fandom. The Clarks shouldn't be showing up all in one place. I'll look at it later, to see if it's just an Archive caching error.
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gloss: woman in front of birch tree looking to the right (SU: lion roar)
[personal profile] gloss wrote:
Feb. 18th, 2016 05:20 pm (UTC)
I have a question about RPF: would it be acceptable to nominate, for instance, cosmonauts like Gagarin and Tereshkova?

Further, there is an existing micro-fandom for works about "Space Vehicles" (mostly the Mars rovers, but also various probes). Would that be kosher to nominate?

Thanks!

Edited 2016-02-18 05:35 pm (UTC)
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 18th, 2016 05:49 pm (UTC)
Astronaut RPF and cosmonaut RPF are both space-related and thus perfectly acceptable! By the same principle, so is the Space Vehicles fandom. Go forth and nominate!
(no subject) - [personal profile] gloss - Feb. 18th, 2016 05:55 pm (UTC)
ladymercury_10: (Default)
[personal profile] ladymercury_10 wrote:
Feb. 22nd, 2016 10:10 pm (UTC)
Just to clarify a couple of my noms, in case their space-y-ness is confusing:

Young Avengers: Noh-Varr and Teddy Altman are aliens. Spaceship travel is also involved.

Runaways: Karolina Dean is an alien.

FF: Space travel is involved (they visit the moon several times).

X-Men (Comics): the X-Men go to space a lot.

Austin & Murry-O'Keefe families: Meg travels in space. Vicky and Adam do not, but they live in the same fictional universe as Meg--Adam works for Meg's husband at one point.

Love is Zero: This is a text adventure game about vampires living on the moon. (http://aliendovecote.com/vampire.html)
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2016 11:26 am (UTC)
Thank you for the proactivity! They're all in, as soon as AO3 starts working.
allekha: Two people with long hair kissing with a heart in the corner (Default)
[personal profile] allekha wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2016 01:33 pm (UTC)
Earthian: the 'angels' are actually aliens from another planet. They travel from their planet to our moon and to Earth, and use a spaceship near the end. The main characters also sit around in space above the Earth a couple of times.
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2016 02:44 pm (UTC)
Thank you! Approved.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2016 07:31 pm (UTC)
World of Warcraft: Velen and Kiljaeden (two of the nominated characters) are aliens from the same planet. Because of a vision he had, Velen flew a giant, megacity-sized dimensional ship (given to him by another set of aliens from a different planet) away from their planet around the galaxy for 10,000 years while KJ chased him, finally coming to Draenor (where Ner'zhul lives, which is a different planet still from where humans live in universe).

Space in Warcraft gets a little complicated because the Twisting Nether acts as simultaneously kind of an astral plane/hyperspace and magical travel in it is not only possible but far more common. The draenei are the only major lore figures to use spaceships, however, unrelated to the nominated characters there are also other quests in game involving space, including one where you send a talking velociraptor and five of her children into outer space in a rocket: http://www.wowhead.com/quest=14422/raptor-raptor-rocket
extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (earth)
[personal profile] extrapenguin wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2016 08:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the clarification! They're in.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 23rd, 2016 08:48 pm (UTC)
Also, I didn't nominate Legend of the Blue Wolves, but it involves humans fighting against parasitic aliens in defense of a human colony on Pluto with space-capable mechas.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Feb. 24th, 2016 12:01 am (UTC)
Also not the nominator, but well-played!
(no subject) - [personal profile] extrapenguin - Feb. 24th, 2016 05:36 am (UTC)